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“ddress the problem. 2 : : NW 65924 Docld:32401055 Page 3 E2, IMPDET CL by 13190 SERBET 21663. SECRET 5. I noted that I had written asking for an up-to-date statement of the internal practice of access within the HSCA staff. I knew that they observed a need-to-know principle and i”

“er will be reviewed in a working session by designated representatives of the various organizations. NW 65924 Docld:32369813 Page 3 SECRET 2. : SECRET 6. A common criteria for security review and pro- posed sanitization will be necessary to insure some rational standard and some ”

“TOP SECRET 38 1 fowl of the other. 2 Senator Huddleston. I think; we've already said that ■ 3 pressures sometimes were brought to bear and we make recommenda- 4 tions to correct that. 5 Ms. Culbreath. Mr. Chairman, could I suggest that maybe if 6 we do delete that, tha”

“TOP SECRET .71 1 be raised since the Federal Disposal of Property Act would not 2 have applied which would have flagged that legally to any other 3 agency. 4 Mr. Aaron. It would also strengthen the Agency's hand- to - 5 resist those purposes, to just simply say, hey, th”

“TOP SECRET 40 1 our recommendations. -dlb 2 Mr. Aaron. Okay. begin 2a 3 Mr. Maxwell. Well, Charlie, correct me. I think the 4 proprietary section would be the appropriate section because 5 that would be where it came up most,,unless there is another 6 one that you see mo”

“es primarily to apprise the employee of his or her dilemma. OGC will request further advice from the Attorney General. Should the most pessimistic development come to pass, the situation will be more political than legal. The رد fact is that time is of the essence, and any stretc”

“TOP SECRET 54 1 Mr. diGenova. May deem necessary. 2 Senator Huddleston. That’s all right. 3 Mr. diGenova. And then we could add, as part of its 4 annual report, the GAO should record all of its intercessions. 5 That should be '"report.” .They record all.of them, so change ”

“c:r3l Q,: trso:%.K I. a n2 Senator Huddleston. Yes. First he must review them. 2 Mr. Aaron. And if he finds a violation, evidence of 3 violation, then he must report to the President and the 4 oversight committee. Just place the responsibility there. 5 Senator Huddleston”

“TOP SECRET 4 1 and inquiry into it has been thorough, and I think we know this 2 well. There is no dispute from the Agency. 5. Senator Huddleston., Weil, is the law inconsistent with 4 the statute on the information service? 5 Mr. Bader. It is the same .thing. I would r”

“Mr. diGenova. Aren’t rou talking about the consolidation? Mr. Aaron. No, we’re talking about the paragraph that just precedes it. I’m sorry, this is the bracketed portion... 3]I’ll read it out. "The CIA should receive USC approva I of all counter- intelligence activitie”

“TOP SECRET 31' 1 Senator Huddleston. We ought to move on. 2 Mr. Aaron. The next section is proprietaries and cover. 3 Senator Huddleston. I just wonder if in presenting this. 4 these three, these four, now, that we have just approved, it 5 would be of any value to assert”

“TOP SECRET 76 1 others, recommended very strongly that there be more unofficial 2 cover.. 3 I think the Agency has been under considerable pressure 4 throughout its existence to do that, and as Joe pointed out 5 there are certain limits to what it has been able to do. 6 ”

“4 * -P •. : Frograms of the CIA and ■ T that are conducted inside the SiUnited States both from the standpoint of their legality. Now I think it’s possible to consolidate those recommend- tions so that we don’t say it twice, and I also think it's possible to take out an”

“- S’ r 1 Now the next paragraph C Mr. Kirbow. Could *‘8 take these one at a time because these are rather critical? 1 Mr. Chairman, one of the things that came before this r; Committee when I guess it was Hr. Colby testifying and at each 6 meeting that Mr. Miller and ”

“TOP SECRET 53 1 there, giving the Committee authority to establish guidelines, 2 to establish for large proprietaries, should they become 5 necessary. 4 You could also make the statement there that the Committee­ 5 may call for a. GAO audit periodically. 6 Mr. diGenova.”

““r -iF. i 45 re agreed upon at the Tfevpl that were left out. Mr. Aaron. I have on here. Mr. Kirbow. Well just for your information, there intents to be 'several things which were not just an occasional |one but several things that were agreed on at the staff level t”

“TOP SECRET 27 1' arrangement we had previously, that is to say, that none of 2 this is final, and certainly not until we hear the comments a of the Agency. 4 Is that still observed? 5 The Chairman. Yes, that is still the situation. Nothing 6 becomes final until the fi”

“0gh ■■1' 190630%081 el - ro% 50 1 : Senator Hart. If it’s happening, I don’t think it should. 2 If we have to sacrifice some human intelligence, I don't think we ought to have a CIA guy tugging on somebody’s sleeve who's 4 filling out his immigration forms because it i”

“q‘1 70 g A, KM SECRET 70 Then the question arose about the deadline on the 15th fl and the-Chairman is going to ask that this deadline be set aside because of the problems of not being able to finish 4 security and those other matters. 5 So he is taking steps to do that ”

“RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH GOS WOULD CARE TO MAKE ON OR OFF THE RECORD. COS MERELY COMMENTED THAT CONGRESSMAN MILFORD’S, PLANNED LEGISLATION SEEMED EXCELLENT AND NOTED THAT THE AGENCY WAS NOT ATTEmPTING TO AVOID RESPONSIBLE 4 OVERSIGHT BY THE CONGRES, BUT ADDED THAT A SECRET SERV”

“TOP SECRET 55 1 report to the oversight committee as well as such independent ■ 2 GAO audits' as the committee shall direct. As part of its 5 annual report to 'the .oversight Committee"' — "As part of its 4. report to the oversight Committee, the CIA shall report," and 5”

“Budget, and the Energy Research and Development Administration. M The following items of interest were discussed: Mr. William G. Miller, Staff Director of the Senate Select Committee (SSC), and the Committee’s Counsel, Mr. F.A.O. SF-2acm/JR # MORIE Schwarz, III, visited C”

“TOP SECRET 72 .1 note that back on page 67 where we have struck out the reference 2 to Mr. Raborn and intend to expand on the pressures having 5 been brought to bear, part of that expansion should include 4 a statement’ that there is no — or that the Federal Disposal 5 ”

“h *** r ! D r -: E D IN C S Senator Huddleston •ot is come to order. Mr. Aaron. The agenda today is to proceed with the DCI i 4■ I section and in addition we would like to get the Subcommittee’s : 5 if you will substantive arrroval of the paper on the production j o”

“;of the. defense report which is the substance of that, has been e. discussed at great length with the Defense Department and they are happy with it except well, happy with it may: be an ■4 exaggeration but they have no problems with it except for the 5 numbers and the Com”

“risk. Moreover, serious damage would be ■ , done to agent morale and motivation .if their identity were to be . revealed to Members or staff of the SSC..".■”

“#* **-N6DA 1U In this specific situation, for example, we’ve already 2 not the Attorney General being involved with the oversight responsibilities. When he takes office he already has the ,1 obligation to see that all the laws and activities of agencies 5 are carried out”

“TOP SECRET 37 1 Mr. Miller. Mr. Hart of Colorado’. 2. Senator Hart of Colorado. Aye. 3 Mr. Miller. Mr. Baker. 4, Senator Baker. Aye.s 5 Mr. Miller. Mr. Goldwater. 6 Senator Tower. No by proxy. 7 Mr. Miller. Mr. Mathias. 8 ■ (No response.) 9 Mr. Miller. Mr. Schw”

“receiving your initial response, by December 9, that designates your Agency Compliance Official and includes your statement regarding your position with respect to the provisions outlined in this letter. To the extent that you have any questions or suggestions regarding the Co”

“18 rs t S treet, S t . , w a s h i to n , D .C . 0 0 0 3 conceivable if you've got enough information, spotting informa 19 7 tion, and you can put a person into a certain kind of situation 20 regardless of his rank, you will find that he is recruitable. 21 22 It is a”

“$ ........ 4 a • .8 Mr. filler. Tha’:! "rilif;"x he hasn’t heard the recommendations that thir be dona by others. It’s just an Liea to be considered. ■1 -Mr. Kirhow: He’s read it I reserve on this. 5 Mr. diGenova I‘r not gure that’s Mr. Inderfurth. Well, the military ”

“1. a- Mx. Kirbow. These sonpla out there are not agents. 91 These are employees. And most of them, by the way, are former employees. They are retired CIA officers. L Senator Huddleston. They are not mixing the assignments? • 5 Mr. Ki rhow. No. They, for example. I don’t”

“stated it would be helpful to have the HPSCI view during, the negotiation process. Tom Latimer then asked that we make sure we keep him supplied with all the position papers that have been developed by the Working Group which we agreed to do. ( C ) 5. Finally, the DCI discuss”

“Ivr ootm GoMo. Ea L 21 1 Senator Tower. That is not a law, that is a regulation. 2 Mr. Aaron. And CIA's own regulation. o The Chairman. But then it was adopted as part of the law, 4 I thought you said. 5 Mr. Bader. No, sir. I said it has been made public 6 through the”

“difference between what the Agency has already taken upon 22 itself and what this recommendation involves is this recommen- 23 dation extends it to individuals who are not accredited. 24 There are a number — the figures that the Committee has 25 NW 50955 DocId:32423521 T”

“Schwarz admitted, however, that some type of arrangement- would have to be made to insure that the Intelligence Community had some protection against unauthorized disclosures by staff j members of the SSC. _ / Enclosures WOC:ebe, CONTINUED - OVER (7) 202 1 ENCLOSURE 42 1”

“74 TOP SECRET 1. number of things that the Committee has already decided to do. 2 Senator Huddleston; We are eliminating a lot of cover. 3 Mr. Aaron. That's the. first thing-. 4 Now, the second thing — and these are nonoffocial cover 5 categories. The second, thing tha”

“with the CIA as it sees fit on an individual agency basis. His motion carried and the Council proceeded to other business. SECRET”

“s•0„ 2/1%K a: a 121■ Mr. Kirbow. Senator thn individuals, we don’t have any 2 great big record that there were rogue agents out there in the FBI doing this. There ware rogue policies down at the ' headquarter ‘% Now if you have the same kind of, rogue policy in a new 5a”

“TOP SECRET 38 1 that we discussed and the staff- was asked to rewrite went to 2 the question of any changes or waivers of Agency directives 3 or recommendations, and as considered by the Committee 4 yesterday. The agreement was —- and if that proposal is 5 one of the ”

“#4 0G00 ; I would certainly want to know whether or not the chief: 2 law enforcement officer of the country thought they were legal or illegal, or if there was a question about it. 1 Senator Mathias. I have a real question if I were 5 Attorney General whether I would si”

“their staffs, which was granted after the normal briefings and signing of the - “-secrecy oath: ; S. Armed Services Committee - Appropriations Committee S. ... . Aeronautical and Space Sciences Committee May I reiterate’ the points I made on Friday: * a. No material is bei”

“(12511.:5 A7 -90*16.2 a 717 1' and he can't do that if he doesn't know when one of the agencies 2 of the Federal government might be breaking them. .It’s a chicken and egg situation. 1 Mr. Kirbow. You think he should approve the policies or 5 the actual procurement of t”

“TOP SECRET 3 -1 And then the question is whether or not there is a prohi- 2. bition on printing in the English language. 5 Mr. Bader. And as I heard the consensus this morning. 4 we would not move to that recommendation; 'for a prohibition. 5 I did not hear whether on t”

“prefer settled, agreed-upon GA TE jTITLE OF REVIEWING OFFICIAL I Deputy Chief.| ■ Counter Intelligence Staff on1 Rif facia Raymond G. Rocca RE SECRET 2 t”

“CIA which will extend 12-18 months beyond the end of the Board's existence. Your continued support is critical. Lee S. Strickland -6 - SECRET”

“of CIA proprietaries. I mean, we are 20 trying to bring them out and see what the impact is on the 21 budget,, where do they, fit in. 22 Senator Huddleston. Can they do that, though, without 23 identifying the proprietary and where .it is located and whatever 24 Mr. diG”

“*d%K8h Mr. Aaron. That lnot what we want to convey and so 9 vou are correct. Mr. Kirbow. They should review the policies and goals 4 and requirements. really. 5 Mr. diGenova. How about policy at the end of the first gion tence? 7 Mr. Aaron. Human intelligence collec”